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Saturday, January 31, 2026

Podcast: Communion With Horses

A friend of mine recently had to have her horse’s eye removed. It is an older, gentle mare, and she is doing well so far. The one-eyed horses I’ve known in the past compensated and went on to live normal lives, one, even as an active (and winning) 4-H game horse. That suggests, to me, that horses rely a lot on all their senses.

I recently read an article in the NY Times about evaluating your health based upon some tests you can do at home, Are You Aging Well? One of the tests is standing on one leg for ten seconds. It reminds me of a pose in my yoga routine, The Dancer. But they threw in a caveat: it’s even better if you can do it with your eyes closed. Yikes.  I tried it, and began to fall over. Taking away my sense of sight threw everything off. 

I was listening to the author of Sacred Spaces, Susan Fay, interviewed on the podcast, Mulemanship. (Here’s the link to the show on YouTube Mulemanship.) It is an excellent, and long, interview about her philosophy and book. GREAT conversation. In fact, one of the best horsey podcasts I’ve ever heard.

In it, and probably the book, too, she recommends closing your eyes to help feel your horse’s energy. Take one sense away so that your other’s are heightened.

I got to thinking about ways I could practice closing my eyes and trying to sense Tumbleweed’s energy, and a lightbulb went off—Masterson Method work and TTouch! (I should have done this on DAY ONE.)


I started with the MM, and closed my eyes a lot while waiting for his releases. I could feel his energy way up, it wasn’t difficult!, and he kept chewing on the rope and shuffling around. 



I took a little break, and then switched to TTouch, which he seemed to enjoy more. I felt his energy come way down. 

I wonder if it’s because he associates human touch with relaxation. He has been handled a lot since he was born. Cowboy sure enjoyed it, too. Surprise, surprise, he was an orphan foal, bottle fed and hand-raised by humans.  All my memories of doing TTouch with Cowboy came flooding back. Sweet moments.


When I wonder how I got Cowboy to the point of being a heart horse, the TTouch method deserves some of the credit. The practitioner I learned from was very good and would come to the house every week. She got us going independently, and he absolutely loved it.

By the time I got to Tweed’s legwork I was able to drop the rope. He had switched over to the parasympathetic state. (In the podcast, Susan Fay said domestic horses spend most of their time in the sympathetic state.)


When we were done, I let him roll in the round pen, but tried to keep him in his relaxed state. I closed my eyes and listened for his energy as he approached, then explored the pen, then approached again. 

The energy was easy to feel when my eyes were closed. The nervous energy in the barn was bristling, while the relaxed energy in the round pen was more like gentle waves that even calmed my own mind. We were getting on the same wavelength. 

If you listen to the podcast, they will briefly touch on these concepts which are mostly, but not all, from the book:

Communion

Congruency

Make-believe

Productive Contemplation 

Energy (Alpha/Beta)

Visualization 

Breathing

Everday is a new day  

Do not focus on the past or even dwell on past stories

Positive aspects to fear: you do what it needs to take to overcome what you’re afraid of, both with your horse and yourself. Getting beyond your skill set, exceeding your skill set can cause you to step back. Fear can keep you alive and inspire you to do something about it.

They tried to deliver our second load of sand yesterday, but got stuck in the mud and couldn’t make it to the arena. (Cry cry cry). My arena is uneven now, and we have to wait until it freezes again to get a truck up there.


We’ll spread out what we have today and try to make the best of it.


7 comments:

  1. Sorry about the sand snafu. Hey, I could send you our colder weather ;) Seriously, I do hope you can get the rest delivered and use your arena sooner than later.

    I saved the podcast link. Thanks for sharing. Ty Evens has been a presenter at Midwest Horse Fair the past few years. I had no idea he had a podcast. Haven't really paid much attention to his stuff, because of the mule focus. I think Susan Fay's methods would apply to most any animal or mind related thing. It makes sense.

    Sweet how chill Tumbleweed is while you are working with him!

    Single leg balance is part of my ongoing PT exercises. Try it barefoot sometime, without legs/arms touching. It is humbling. Closing eyes triggers a brain connection. I forgot what it is called. Frightening what functionality we lose as we age, without even realizing it.

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    1. It’s a long conversation podcast, but I think you’ll enjoy it. I did. They don’t talk about mules, even though it’s a mule podcast. I had never heard of him before, but I’ve listened to 3 people interview her so far, and his was the most knowledgeable and thoughtful, IMO. He reads long excerpts from her book, too. It was thoroughly enjoyable to listen to. She sounds deeply authentic and down to earth. Warwick Schiller has a few interviews with her, too. I’m listening to his second one right now.

      That closing your eyes while standing on one leg is crazy. I never tried it when I was younger, so I don’t know if I could ever do it. I get about 2 seconds before I have to open them again. 😳

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  2. Eye sight is such a huge part of our proprioception that when we take it away, the world is literally off-kilter. When I was learning to ride as a kid, my godmother used to make me ride with my arms out, eyes closed. At the time, it was just fun, but maybe she was just 50 years ahead of her time :D. My mom like the exercise so much that when she taught all of the grandkids to ride, she also did that. I used to find it so relaxing to do when Estes and I were out on the trail.

    Skeeter ... we have trust issues this year, and I haven't quite figured it out. I know that a big part of it is that I haven't spent enough time with her, but she's even more disconnected than she ever has been. I say that, then I think about how connected we are at the end of each ride, even if we've spent the time arguing with each other. Sigh. I don't know. We'll get it worked out eventually, as all long term relationships have their ups and downs.

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    1. How fascinating that your mom and godmother asked you to close your eyes while you were learning. Yes, they were ahead of their time. It is something I do with the piano a lot. Close my eyes, land on the keys, look, repeat. Makes sense it would work with riding. Even the trust aspect, trusting your horse to figure out where they’re going. Super cool.

      Do you think part of the issue with Skeeter is just that you’re doing more, like the work ethic part? I have bounced back and forth from minimalist to maximalist. This is a maximalist year, so I expect more resistance. The question is, will working through all the emotions, etc, produce better results? Time will tell.

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    2. I would still consider us pretty minimalist. Even when we "work", it's 30 minutes once or twice a week. She's always had a pretty good work ethic, I think it's because I let her sit on the back burner for so long, she's decided that I am not her human any longer. She doesn't yet trust me again to be consistent, and I can't blame her - I have too many irons in the fire. I think we'll be fine once I can get consistent again, and to move her up higher on my priority list. One thing I've been wanting to do for the last couple of years is hobble train her, so she can be out with me when I'm working in the yard. Maybe this year will be the year that actually happens.

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  3. Ok I had to try the balance on one leg eyes closed thing.... dismal failure! However I can do both legs eyes closed fairly well.
    One of the things I enjoy when trail riding is to close my eyes and listen to /feel the rhythm of the ride- in a safe area of course!
    Interesting that Tweed preferred the TTouch. When you did MM did you start with the Bladder Meridian? When I do that it helps me to relax and I think that carries over to the horse.

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    1. Funny. It’s not easy standing on one leg with eyes closed, that’s for sure. I like the idea of closing your eyes while riding. I imagine it really would help you enjoin energy and rhythm closer.

      I did start with the bladder meridian work, but he just seemed bored and restless waiting for the release. The TTouch got him into a relaxed state faster. I’ll keep trying though. I think they’re both really good at helping us both connect before we head to the arena.

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